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Cheyenne ([personal profile] illusional) wrote2011-05-16 09:48 pm

7th l o s t s o u l ~ [Voice]

[The last event left Cheyenne in a weird place and since then, she's been rather scarce around the village. Aside from getting food at one of the village restaurants, she's spent most of her time either in her apartment or in the forests just outside the village. Today, she's actually back to her usual spot: sitting on the edge of one of Luceti's many bridges, looking down at the water.]

[A few hours of this goes by until she finally opens her journal and poses a question to the residents. The very thing that's been on her mind all this time.]


It is not uncommon for others to ask questions using these journals, yes? [A pause. She wasn't really expecting an answer to that.]


...what do you think it means to be a "person"?
semper_cogitans: (:<)

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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-19 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
...

[And another thing that hits close to home.]

I have... met people who have challenged my definitions of "ethical" here. They... they are good people. But they have done things that... that I would find distasteful or worse.

... I am not so certain I can judge people as easily as I used to.

[That is a rare admission you're getting, Cheyenne.]
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-20 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Hey, it's something that Robert has trouble with himself. He doesn't begrudge her this question.]

In this situation, it does. I find myself unable to take these actions and judge them without placing them in the context of the greater individual.

... For example, I... I had been... t-taught to consider the ability to commit violent acts as... inherently barbaric. Simply put, people capable of violence were... n-not supposed to be able to be good people...

... But here in Luceti, I have met... many people who are capable of it... and somehow are still capable of being good, kind, caring people as well. These parts coexist in a way that... that I still do not understand. But... b-but is undeniable that they do.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-22 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
It is different when it is... deliberate. Pre-ordained. When somebody thinks to commit harm, and does it for a reason...

... [Softly:] But... The people I know... they can still do this, and yet be good.

Being a person means... being able to do truly horrible things, as well as truly wonderful. It matters what you choose to do.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-22 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
Is there some reason that you are questioning this, if I may ask?

[Because it is a very profound question to just... ask for no reason.]

Are you hoping to gain a specific insight?
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-23 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it is certainly a fascinating question. And it is one that matters very much to me...

[Robert would hate for people to see his partner as anything less than a person in his own right.]
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-24 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I am a human, yes. [Robert nods, though Cheyenne can't see.] But not only is my field of work familiar with those who qualify as people but are not human-like - that is, astrobiology - but my partner is a non-human sapient himself.

Additionally, there are other people here in Luceti I know who are non-human sapients as well, and they deserve the title of person from any perspective I can see.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-26 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
It may have been, but if it was I do not remember answering it myself. Or even hearing about it.

...

I think it is definitely an important question. Not simply here, but in general. One should not take one's personhood for granted.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-27 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that personhood is the cornerstone of much of sapient rights, I would say so.

If a person is considered to be less than a person, for whatever reason, horrid abuses of that person can follow from that kind of mindset.

[Softly, but with real vehemence:] My partner would know. His family has been treated downright hideously due to the fact that many humans refuse to see them as people.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-29 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You should not be blamed for the crimes of your species...

... Though I suppose it is natural to want to take blame for it. After all, I find myself... apologetic for my own foolish species many times over, especially here.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-01 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well... [Robert can understand that, to an extent. It's what he does with himself, right?]

Just... be careful that, in doing so, you do not devalue your own self, or make yourself out to be the one who caused these problems to begin with.

... Though you can certainly aim to right things, if you can...
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-08 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You do not need to feign innocence, but at the same time, there is nothing to prevent you from working to assure it does not happen again.

As you said before, your ability to feel places you at a level above others of your species. In that case, then, it is important for you to work to maintain that.

... In any case, I hope that my answer has helped you in some way. Even if you do not consider yourself a person, I think you are one.
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-10 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Is it not positive to you at all, to be seen in this light?

Or... do you want to be seen as a monster...?

[Robert's tone is... tentative. Almost disbelieving, really.]

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